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What is astounding is the irrelevance of your statements.

Julia, yes you are correct, it is in the hands of the radicals at the expense of the common people on both sides however, it is much more than religious fervor and much more international intrigue.

The Israelis and Palestinians have been are still being used as pawns in a game that only a few understand they have both been betrayed and lied to often by the very people that they call allies. The U.S. uses Israel like a child as an excuse for its foreign policy that would otherwise be inexcusable and the Arab countries use the Palestinians as a buffer and a sideshow to hide the wrongs that they commit in the name of Islam.

The leadership of all involved has succeeded in their mandates which is to let this land and its peoples as pawns to be brought out whenever it helps their separate but equally selfish agendas. Thus the peoples of this land must find a way to create a dialog among the lay people not withstanding the leaderships designs or opinions.

You are also misinformed in your statement that “Jewish realised that this new religion and its teachings could influence more people than Judaism or the Torah ever could.”. The Jewish religion is not one that seeks conversion, as a matter of fact from all evidence that I have seen conversion isn’t truly possible since the religion and the bloodline are intertwined.

You are however correct in your assessment that both the Jewish and Muslim peoples coexisted peacefully even harmoniously previous to the establishment of the state of Israel. Since the immigration of the Muslims to Medina, the Jewish people, while at times there leadership became hostile, were considered the answar, answar is a very powerful title that in simple terms means the helper but in its deeper meaning the title holds the person as a partner and supporter.

The divisions that we now see between The Muslims and The Jewish people are not truly about religion or race but in fact have been manufactured by various leadership factions around the world. Therefore it is imperative for them open a dialog among the lay people despite the leadership because the sad truth is that Palestine is a buffer and excuse for all kinds of atrocities around the world.

Joseph’s Tomb

Please don’t bring Israel to us because it’s democracy is nothing like ours. Israel would not be a good state because half the stuff they do they wouldn’t be able to get away with.

My philosophy is let Israel be the one to attack Iran and not bring us into it because sooner or later they need to learn to stand on their own two feet.

The English Translation for this text:

You are a Zionist and Zionists PUNISHED by God for eternity!
I hope you will be punished by Allah sobhano wa tahala

Your statement implies that you are biased by the simple fact that you are using your religion as a basis of your argument. President Harry S Truman who recognized the state of Israel did it in such a way that supported his faith even when the Secretary of State George C Marshall said the plan was unworkable and by doing so the president violated one of our basic constitutional rights, the First Amendment. George Washington’s farewell address of 1796 even said the Bill of Rights should be a basis of how we conduct ourselves in foreign-policy. All past treaties of the United States are considered laws of the land and one such treaty said the United States is not based on the Christian religion. This treaty was drafted by president John Adams, approved and read in Congress with little or no opponents to the treaty. If you do not believe what I am saying then I suggest you should look it up. It is called the Treaty of Tripoli which is addressed to the Moslems.

The United States with its veto powers in the UN Security Council has made the United Nations an ineffective entity. Israel contributes to the majority of its problems here. It is kind of funny that the United Nations backed up the partition plan of 1947? If you really had to compare Israel to any other country I would say that it is closer to Iran than the United States. The reason for this is that the United States is a representative democracy and Israel is a theocratic democracy like Iran.

And just because you say G-d doesn’t exist, doesn’t make it so. What are you, the authority on the subject? Everything is according to how Chuck sees things and everyone who has different views from Chuck is wrong? Gamaliel sees something you do not. If you can believe whatever you want, then so can Gamaliel. That’s called freedom. Something you are practicing, but denying Gamaliel. This concept of Israel being for the chosen is in the Torah and it’s in the Koran. There has been an Israelite/Jewish presence in the land of Israel, continuously, for 4000 years. That goes along with the promise that God made to Abraham. There has got to be something to that, seeing as how all the other nations who came up against Israel are now gone or are not a ruling entity any longer, yet Israel and the Chosen remain. Just as God said.

The Arab governments told the Arabs to leave Israel while they wiped out the Jews when the Arabs attacked the newly proclaimed state of Israel.

The Arab governments then told the Arabs they could go back into Israel and have any land and homes of the Jews that the Arabs wanted. Those Arabs who listened to the Arab governments and left the area, thinking they would return and reside in the Jews homes were stuck in refugee camps when the Arabs lost the war they started against the newly created Jewish state. The Arab governments refused to help those Arab refugees even though most of those refugees were in fact illegal immigrants who came into Israel from those surrounding Arab countries that attacked Israel.

There has never been an official Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian people. Those people, for the most part, are from the surrounding Arab countries. The Palestinians were created in a day by Yassir Arafat.

The Arabs have lied about the whole thing.

The LEHI are still honored today in Israel and it shows, with the museum dedicated to their fight against the evil British occupation or that seems to be the way they put it. Honoring this extremist group is a little like present day P.A. erecting a memorial honoring Hamas suicide bombers who died for their cause of freedom.

No other democracy in the world has areas which are for one ethnic group only.

For the Palestinians it is not about the amount of land they have because as many people have stated, there are other Arab states for them to occupy. However, if the Palestinians do stop fighting for what is right, they will be accepting the oppression from Israel and the Unites States.

false faith in false religions. There is no sky fairy only the heaven and hell you make while you live.

Religion accomplishes a lot of terror that builds on itself.

no Jonathan, he/she means when the Jews took the lands of the Arabs at gun-point in the 1930′s-40′s and declared it their long lost country from 3000+ years ago. Islam is invented (by God) and we know it since 1400 years ago, not 3000+ years ago. before the Islamic conquest of Palestine, Palestine was under Byzantine rule and not the Jews.

Feris, your reply summarizes the entire anti-Arab discrimination which is based on ignorance, self-denied racism against Arabs and middle-eastern people including the Jews, but which is now simply the turn of the Arabs to hate instead. It’s people like you who committed and applauded the discrimination and then the Holocaust against the Jews in the 2nd world war, people like you and Netanyahu. Stressing on the Netanyahu quote, which you advertise vividly like a clown, it is noteworthy to know the fact that Palestine is a land more than 90% percent owned by Palestinian Arabs, which was rifle looted from them by their Jewish compatriots and the massive fire power immigration during and after ww2, beginning skirmishes in the thirties and went totally ransacking after 1940s. If you publish an encyclopedia of deceiving scenarios on the subject, the facts will always be unspoiled, declaring the incidence as the greatest theft-attempt of national property of the civilized world. If the Arabs lay down their weapons it means they don’t give a damn about their country and identity, if the thieves lay down their weapons it will be the end of the bloodiest theft raiding in history. This incidence later echoed massacres in Lebanon between the Palestinians and the Lebanese, which is the direct responsibility of the zionist movement as well.

Everywhere we have good and bad individuals within communities or nations, hence, which are better, is no issue at all. Conflict between Israel, Palestinian Arabs and the rest of Arab world has all elements of collective insanity triggered by malignant and orchestrated religious fanaticism, prevailing to one side.

So defined side is incapable even to consider such possibility and remains convinced in their righteous cause, no matter what. Worldwide-polarized opinion only maintains such attitude, not to forget partial and other handy political and business interests.

In spite of deep religious orientation, troubled sometimes with own orthodox fanatics, Israel remain modern, constitutional, secular technological society and typical representative of developed democracies. Arab world is pure contrast, with Palestinian Arab entity even worse. Incompatible as water and oil both has to dwell in one big vessel with same rights for existence.

Religious fanaticism and obsolete tribal primitivism are primaries of Arab world. Explicitly opportunistic Palestinians irrationally maintain hatred to Israelis, at same time hastily ready to use benefits of more advanced civilization. Netanyahu could not express better, “if the Arabs lay down their arms there will be no more war, but if Israel lays down its weapons there would be no more Israel”. I believe even opponents of Israel are aware of this fact.

Arabs have many countries with vast territories; Israel is one on very limited space. Israeli existence as Jewish state is in serious jeopardy by Arab extreme demographic expansion and paradoxical influx of other Arabs and black Africa opportunistic immigration waves.

I am terrified from this same massive immigration purring in Europe almost freely, thanks to incredible ignorance off local governments and shortsighted EU policy in general. Europe is huge in comparison to Israel and I can only imagine how Israelis feel about common problem. It is common, as demographically expansive Islam is evidently hostile to white Christian civilization and that is almost undisputable.

Naturally, my sympathies stick to Israel. Arabs and Islamic world have other values, much more worth of their attention, instead of sticking to religious fanaticism and archaic tribal retardedness.

Disregarding all above, I am convinced that all mighty Mother Nature, as response to our global demographic imbalance, triggers most of our animosities, on deeper subconscious level. If there would be few of us on Earth, we would be very happy seeing each other, under any circumstances. It seams as Nature is signaling, kill yourself hastily, as I will reduce you my way, or stick your heads together and find way to balance your numbers and behavior.

In exchange for a landmass that is double the size of Israel today, triple if you exclude the West Bank and Gaza, Israel received a promise of oil. It’s a lot easier to stop trading oil than it is to unwithdraw from land. Note that in 2011 Egypt’s Finance Minister claimed that the 1979 peace treaty does not obligate Egypt to sell gas to Israel.

The “Palestine” in Roman times was not the current Arab “Palestine.” It was simply a name given to another region the Romans conquered. It was a land inhabited mostly by Jews, as it had been for hundreds or thousands of years before, depending how you account for the years the Jews were in exile or under occupation from various foreign powers. The Romans called current-day France “Gaul,” old parts of Germany were called “Prussia…” so for that reason the only thing tying current-day Palestinians to Roman Palestine is the name. The land now called Israel and Palestine has been the ancestral home of the Jews for millenia, in addition to Arab families living there side-by-side with them over the years, at times peacefully (mostly before the invention of Islam). The vast majority of “Palestinians” today would have been considered something else entirely 100 years ago, much like “Jordanian,” “Syrian,” etc are all recent inventions due to the random border-drawing of the Ottomans, Britons, and French in the last few hundred years. Under the Ottomans they placed their allegiance with tribes and large extended families, not with nationalities. This can be easily seen in many of the current sectarian and ethnic tensions inside a number of Middle Eastern countries today.

You mean how the Arabs did to the Jews after Islam was invented?

Let the Arabs go live in Jordan where they belong with their people. This is not about not having a home, this is about hating the Jewish people as they always have.

Israel was given to the Jewish people by GOD what more do you need to know. Palestine is a place not a people, the people who call themselves Palestinians are ARABS and need to go home to JORDAN and beyond.

Thanks

Elder

Answer ‘To keep dangerous terrorist infiltrators out of Israel’

One Question that hasn’t been asked is why is Israel subject to such attack from the west bank?

Answer. Being subject to poverty, unemployment, Military checkpoints, refugee camps, starving, lack of access of health care education and so on will make any sane man crack. You then start to think that know one is listening. When you think know one is listening you do stupid things to get attention such as terrorism. A good example of a repressed group of people using terrorism to get attention would be the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946.

I suggest instead of building a wall try and build friendship. Understand life for the Palestinians point of view. Pull down the settlements in the West Bank, leave Hebron and give control of the King Hussein / Allenby Bridge boarder crossing to the West Bank authorities. Israel could lead the way by offering its hand at friendship and the World could help address the poverty problems.

I’m not saying that Israel should not defend it boarders, but this wall will lead to more problems, more massacres in Israel, more crimes against humanity, more shooting of Palestinians.

It almost looks like the segregated south in the Jim Crow era. No one whites wanted blacks in their neighborhood, schools, hospitals, grocery stores, etc. Terrorized them, bombed them, lynched them, created laws to oppress them in hopes that they would go away and live somewhere else. Seems like this is what Israel wants. Palestinians to go away when they have a right to the land they have lived on for thousands of years. Palestinians are not European transplants. They are the locals.

Sara Jones.

After Solomon’s death, the country broke into two (each ruled by a son, from diffedrent wives, of Solomon) 1) the southern half made of the tribes of Benjimen and Judea was called Judea and the 10 remaining tribes (in the north) called Isreal. In truth both countries are decendants of Jacob and are ALL SONS OF ISREAL, jACOB, hence all technically are Isrealis.

When the Assyrians attacked the north (Isreal), many people from the 10 Northern tribes migrated to the south, to realtives in the Kingdom of Judea. Don’t forget while there were two political entities, ruled by Kings (both decenants of the house or David) there was much intermarrying between people of the two political entities.

So in truth, calling it Isreal (decenants of Jacob) is geneticially, poltically, ethnically correct.

The name Palestine as written about int he orirignal postiing was to not only destroy the policial entites which Rome origianlly set up after the conquest of the Judea, Summaria & Galalie that was the biblical Isreal/Judea. The Jewish people were the only people to revolt against the Roman Empire for over 7 yrs (the longest ongoing revolt by any country Rome conqured). Rome not only wanted to psychologically and physically destroy the Jews but to give a warning to all other areas Rome controlled that if you revolt you will be wiped out of existance. The Roman Emperor, Vespasian, not only destroyed the Second Jewish Temple (now where the Dome of the Rock is, also called the Temple Mount) and then changed the name to Isreal’s historic enemy, the PHilistines (thnk David and Goliath), and call it Phalistine. Jews continued to live on those lands till modern times.

I suggest Sophia you should revise t your historical information In 1938 the Grand Mufti (Haj Amin al-Husseini) , the uncle of Arafat, went to Berlin and became an ally of Natzi German and went back to Palestine and organized a Palestinian storm troopers that fought againt the allies; while native Jews who’s famillies have always lived in Palestine joined the British army to fight the Natzi’s and their allies, The Grand Mutfi called upon all “True Believers” in Palestine to attack and kill Jews in Hebron and other Jewis Towns/Cities. Over 80,000 Jews were murdered and thousands were forced to leave their homes, they legally owned, in Jeruselum. (some familes have lived there since prior to the Roman occupation). Not many people realize that the Grand Mufti (Haj Amin al-Husseini

This is just rethoric and serves no intellectual purpose.

The UN is not biased even though the creation of the state of Israel was a thinly passed fix by the US, not a triumph as it is depicted. Israel corrupted the UN at its inception, assaulted its basic principle that territory aggrandizement by war was “unacceptable.” Israel and its Lobby have now corrupted the US Congress and the current Israeli government is assaulting free speech and democracy with a relentless passion.

I was never ashamed of being a Jew until I started asking questions about Zionism and Israel. The, the answers were overwhelming and obvious (obvious — right before our eyes!), not squirreled away, not some sophisticated judgement of a “complicated” affair. It was plain as day. Zionists sold a troubled people phony “rights” to a land occupied and owned by other people. Foreigners came to Palestine and kicked the occupiers out and confiscated their property. They attempted to hide their crimes by planting trees and telling wild stories about how inhabitants fled to other countries. The process of stealing land and kicking out inhabitants continues apace in the West Bank.

Fortunately, Israel will expire due to demographic circumstances over which it has no control. American Jews, fervent Zionists many, will not move to Israel even if it is “their” land. Not on your life. And Israelis are leaving in meaningful numbers and not reproducing the valued Jewish genome quickly enough. Israel has even embarked on a program to accept as Jews, some peoples are best described as “near-Jews”. Desperate. Two generations and Israel will be diluted by an Arab population and Arab pressure, like South Africa before it.

Quran always mentions Israel and Jews in the past. So where does it say Israel belongs to Jews in the past.